Operating Via Deceit

The "new" "club"  "membership and you"   claims to be running in the "major league" and states that their members own hundreds of titled dogs! Aside from the 300 plus conformation dogs they point to, they state:

<<In addition, our Shiloh Shepherds are actively proving their temperaments and trainability.>>

They then list:
100 CGC awards, 50 registered therapy dogs, 20 HIT, 10 HCT, 5 HJD, 1 HTAD, 10 Service Assistance Dogs, 5 certified SAR dogs and 10 Obedience titles.

Sounds good, right?

Unfortunately, they have conveniently omitted the facts.

1. Most of these dogs were bred by ISSR Licensed Breeders -- under ISSR rules, thus only proving that the ISSR knows how to breed Quality dogs that excel in a variety of endeavors.

2. Most of these dogs were titled while their owners were still part of the SSDCA and some of them are still with the original club! While other pet owners have chosen to join the "new" club even thought their neutered/spayed dogs are still registered with the ISSR!

Then at the bottom they claim that they operate a "professional club" without all of the damaging politics.  Yet their continuous slanderous attacks against me prove otherwise!

Let's take an honest look at how their predecessors operated.

Nothing has changed, the rumors, lies and innuendoes are just becoming more redundant!


Other Important Facts

So, let's look at some other important facts. This group did not start forming until June 2004.  That's less than 2 years! They claim to be huge but where is their real membership roster? Their e-group may consist of 290 members but most of them are just curiosity seekers that have joined to "see" what was going on.  Our forums consist of 1169 members and were only started 7 months earlier!

FACTS TEND TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!

Be sure to visit my Buyers Beware Blog and take some time to view the Registry Comparison Matrix.

2008 Update

"Both Sides of the Shiloh Shepherd Story"

The "dark side" would like you to believe that they are breeding "Shiloh Shepherds" -- NOT SO!! What they are doing is using my name to mass produce all kinds of GSD-mixed pups that they try to sell for 10 times what they are worth!! In order to accomplish their SCAM they put forth tons of lies, so I am going to deal with just a FEW in this article!

<< The only dogs in any Shiloh Shepherd pedigrees that are not Shiloh Shepherds are those that were intentionally brought in as outcrosses to maintain genetic diversity and expand the gene pool. The breed’s founder has brought in numerous outcrosses of her own >>

FALSE -- I have only brought in a few over the past 2 decades .. full details are available on http://www.shilohshepherds.info/pedigreeExamples.htm

<<There is limited public pedigree and health data for most of the founders ISSR outcrosses with no forthcoming data in sight.>>

Full disclosures regarding ALL  litters produced and health data  is continuously maintained - updated - and shared on our PUBLIC forums.
 
<<Making the Change: Whenever any owner or breeder of an ISSR registered Shiloh Shepherd (thus associated with the founder), chooses to disassociated themselves from the ISSR/SSDCA, the breed’s founder will publicly deem their Shiloh Shepherd to be nothing but a mutt. What happened to the thousands of dollars spent to purchase a “real” Shiloh directly from the founder or one of her so called "licensed breeders"? >>

Obviously the slivers have no integrity and this certainly proves it!! Even the AKC will not register mixed breed pups!! So even if the sire/dam WAS properly registered with the ISSR, once bred out of the registry, the progeny is no longer "pure" and therefore cannot (certainly SHOULD NOT) claim to be anything other then what they are -- Shiloh/GSD mixes!! http://www.shilohfraud.com/

<<The “breed under development” argument is not entirely true as the Shiloh Shepherd Breed Standard has been in effect since 1991. If it were a supposed breed in development, the Breed Standard would be in development too. >>

FALSE -- Breed Standards don't change! It's the written "blueprint" for the breeders/judges/etc. to follow in order for the "breed" to set/maintain proper "type" -- just like a blueprint you prepare BEFORE you start building your house -- it should remain the same if you want your house to end up as formally envisioned! If you keep making changes, you will NOT be able to accomplish your ORIGINAL goals!!

<<It’s understandable that the breed’s founder would discourage her people from entering Rare Breed dog shows that are frequented by “splinters”. She doesn’t want her newbies to learn that the non-ISSR breeders are actually responsible, friendly and accountable, and breeding very good Shiloh Shepherds to the Standard she wrote. >>

FALSE -- No credible dog show organization allows mixed breeds to enter along side the pure breds! It would be ludicrous!! Pet quality - faulty - dogs of mixed ancestry should remain in pet homes where they can be loved - but not bred! The purpose of dog shows is to select the best BREEDING stock!! As for the "people" .. they may be "nice" but IMHO as long as they continue to insist on falsely representing MY name, they are doing all of the REAL SHILOH owners a grave injustice!!

The person that steals YOUR identity may be "nice" but they will still end up in jail after they are caught!! It's a shame that the same laws do not apply to BYB's.

<<Anyone who spends a small amount of time investigating the Shiloh Shepherd on the internet will surely come across derogatory names like “splinter” and “sliver” in their investigations. Both terms (and others) were coined to represent break-away breeders – akin to splinters from a piece of wood. The “splinters” have been accumulating for many years, and there’s quite a tree now! >>

Another false delusion!! You can't grow a tree out of wood shavings!! It will NEVER happen!! LOL

<<There are many “splinters” who’ve never had any dealings with her, enjoying only positive experiences with their Shiloh's. >>

With the dogs they THINK are "shilohs" -- unfortunately, those that have never been around the REAL DEAL don't know the difference!! Most of them have NO knowledge regarding the LMI program, or any of the ancestors in the pedigrees they are using!! They don't even realize that much of the information they DO have is false, because the slivers stole corrupted files!! ROTFLMAO

<<Regardless of the final chosen registry, a Shiloh Shepherd is a Shiloh Shepherd, providing the pedigree indicates as such. Calling any owner or breeder of a registered and DNA’d Shiloh Shepherd a “fake” is defamatory and criminal, particularly when parentage is readily provable. >>

Another ploy! DNA testing only proves WHO the parents were -- not purity of the genepool, or quality of the dogs being used! Since the ISSR does not require DNA testing for all of their breeding stock, the slivers can't even prove that the dogs they CLAIM to be formerly ISSR registered -- really were! It may sound "good" to the average consumer -- but it's just another SCAM!

<<Marketing 101: "Investigate before you invest!" This common statement should be well known to today’s consumers for raising red flags. The psychological assumption in this statement is that the author is the true authority on the subject, and you’ve found the source for all you need to know. >>

Raising flags?? Guess the slivers DON'T want you to investigate -- because if you DO, you will discover that the TRUE history behind these dogs IS available on the web -- and it does NOT include any of them!! http://www.shilohhistory.com/

<<Scare Tactics: Oh, the never ending scare tactics! “If you talk to the splinters we will be forced to remove you”, “When our dogs receive official recognition, your dogs will NOT be included”, “splinter dogs will eat your children”, “the Lord will crush the evil splinters”, “the book is almost sold out – so order your copy now before it’s too late”, “order a dozen of my little stuffed dogs in bulk to get your discount”, “you will end up with a worthless mutt, like the puppymilling splinters ”, etc. >>

This proves how those people "think" and if you run word searches on our forum  ... or take the time to read ALL of my articles, you will not find any place where I have used THOSE "words" ... the ONLY thing I have stated, and will continue to state is that ..... The "Shiloh Shepherd" is still under development and we are NOT ready YET to apply for full recognition, be it via the AKC or FCI .. but when that day DOES come, only ISSR registered dogs will be allowed to enter (none of these organizations are going to accept mixed breeds as "pure" .. it's just NOT going to happen!) Therefore, the dogs that do NOT have official ISSR papers will not be allowed!! Feel free to contact the FSS & ask them what THEY accept for "paperwork" on the breeds they recognize!!

<<Bottom Line: As a group, we’ve made it a mission to ignore the founder’s ongoing assault on our ethics and our dogs. After all, it would be too easy to counter-attack a large kennel full of untrained, un-cared for, malnourished and often sick dogs being sold for thousands of dollars to loyal, trusting devotees. >>

Read that AGAIN!! Who is attacking whom here?? Think about it!! All the slivers have done since they got "organized" in 2004 is to try their best to spread lies about me every chance they can, and send in all kinds of complaints to the DOA in order to get them to "shut me down" -- I have had investigators "popping" in on a regular basis for the past 4 years -- at first they TRIED very hard to find *something* wrong -- but after all of those false alarms, they got fed up & are now just laughing off the "complaints" ... one person told me that the attitude at this time is ... "oh, it's just *them* calling again" ... file it under "another FALSE alarm"!!! LOL


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